Reddit has a lot of amazing pages but the subreddit, r/Decks is truly a rabbit hole of overconfident DIY insanity. There are some great tips and resources for people looking to build their own decks or reviewing the decks of homes they’d like to buy. But then there are the examples of the worst construction ever seen. Just looking at these images will raise your heart rate and hospital bills.

We’ve gathered some of the highlights of r/Decks for you to enjoy and hopefully use to switch topics during holiday gatherings. Are your uncles fighting over politics? Bring them together with photos of a hot tub on a deck that can barely support it. Nothing brings middle-aged men together than poor construction that they’d totally do a better job at (cheaper too!).